Very true, @benwerd -- and since it's all happening transparently, it's not just #ello's developers who can observe.
Edited to add: lots of fun, too!
Using Known to connect #ello and Twitter
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In Life after "peak Facebook", I mentioned that an advantage of the Indieweb approach is that it's easy to incorporate new silos like ello. There's still a little manual work required; ello doesn't have an API to automate posting. But if you don't mind cut-and-pasting, it's easy enough. This post gives a couple of examples, and then briefly discusses my posting flow.First of all, the landscape:The Indieweb-enabled TapestryMaker blog (running Known) is at stream.tapestrymaker.net
The TapestryMaker Twitter profile is @TapestryMaker
On ello, I'm currently posting as jdp23 (instead of having a separate TapestryMaker account)
When I configured the TapestryMaker blog, I connected it to Twitter and Facebook.* So whenever I post, I get the option to "syndicate" it to those other sites. I also use brid.gy, a Google AppEngine-hosted application written by Ryan Barrett, to handle copying posts back from Twitter and Facebook.ExamplesNow on to the first example. On ello, I saw a post by @womenwhotech I wanted to respond to. So I created my response on the blog, and cut-and-paste it over to ello. Known automatically syndicated it to Twitter, where @womenwhotech replied; and brid.gy copied the reply back to the blog. The Indieweb blog is doing a couple of things for me here:it's an archive of all my posts: to ello, to Twitter, replies to other Indieweb blog posts, and so on.
by syndicating to Twitter, it's sending it out to a broader audience and notifying @womenwhotech
And here's a slightly more complex example. Ben posted on his Known blog, and copied it to ello. I saw it on ello, and drafted a reply there (so I could write it in context), posted the reply first on the TapestryMaker blog, and copied it to back to ello. As well as syndicating it to Twitter, Known also sent a webmention to Ben so the comment showed up on his blog as well. How cool is that?Posting flowKnown lets you create posts, status messages,* bookmarks, photos, music, and other types of content. It's easy to do; just click on the icon, type what you want to say, and hit Publish.Then again some of us are old-school and more deliberate before posting in public (especially if it's going to Twitter). So here's my flow for making posts.Write a draft. Like I said, I'm old-school :) Known's visual editor is okay, but sometimes it's easier to create it in a more robust environment and just cut-and-paste the HTML; I also have a separate private Known site that I use for drafts so that I can see how they look before I share them with the world.
When it's ready I post it on the TapestryMaker blog, and rely on Known to syndicate it and send out webmentions. If it's a reply to a post on ello, I include the ello link in the "reply to a site" field.
Then I cut-and-paste to copy it to ello, potentially summarizing it in the process. This sometimes involves editing the raw HTML or Markdown.*** If it's a new post (as opposed to a reply), I then go back and edit the blog entry to include the link to ello.
There's enough manual work here that there are lots of opportunities to make mistakes, and I certainly have from time to time. Still, at leat for me, the value outweighs the effort. And it'll get easier over time!* I could also have set up Soundcloud, Flickr, FourSquare, and LinkedIn; others options coming soon** status messages are Twitter-like; you get a window, make it easy to put in the in-reply-to links; posts let you write a "headline", both for display onthe blog and on Twitter, and give you a wysiwig editor.*** raw HTML and Markdown? You kids are so lucky today! I remember when all we had wa PDP-11 assembler and Lisp!
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